Indecisive people kill me

"AM3R" (AM3R) 09/06/2014 at 17:12 • Filed to: Problems

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Besides Rusto, none of you know this, but I'm pretty much 90% of the way through a deal for a 944 turbo and an E36 M3 from the same seller. His dad sold him the cars to buy a much more DC commute friendly car (GTR), but the son doesn't know how to drive stick so his dad convinced him to sell to me. We talked, agreed on a (great) price, and now he's having second thoughts.

"I don't have the time to learn how to drive a stick... buuuut maybe it would be smart to keep these around in case I ever do find time!"

It's almost like he doesn't want to sell just because his dad wants him to. I remember when I behaved like that, and then I turned 14.

jkm7680 > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 17:14

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Lol, both of those are one and two of the list of cars I want.

AM3R > jkm7680 09/06/2014 at 17:18

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I'm really only super interested in this because of how good of a deal it'll be. I'd be fine with just having one of these, I'd be REALLY happy honestly.

If this continues for another week I'm just gonna back out of it and look for a n/a 944 or an E36 M3.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 17:20

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That happened to me when I bought my car. Fortunately, the seller came to his senses.

IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 17:22

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1. Kid is a dipshit for selling those cars.
2. Kid is a dipshit for jerking you around.

Show up to his house with $100 bills and stick them in his hand, that has the tendency to change people's minds.

Jeff-God-of-Biscuits > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 17:23

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I don't know, maybe he's right?

IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 17:23

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Also where are these cars located, I want both of them. If you back out I might try to sweep in...

Brian Silvestro > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 17:24

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Read: spoiled douche that doesn't have to make his own decisions.

SonorousSpeedJoe > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 17:37

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An E46 M3 and a 944?

Man, I'd take either one of those in place of my Focus. It'd be great if that deal doesn't fall through.

AM3R > SonorousSpeedJoe 09/06/2014 at 17:47

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I'd be more than satisfied with either!

Manuél Ferrari > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 17:50

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Nooooo! Make up your mind seller dude!

Are those the actual colors?

AM3R > IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK 09/06/2014 at 17:51

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I wouldn't sell them if I had them, but I'm a car guy and I can drive stick. This guy is neither.

I told him I have cash in hand. $100 bills. I told him to call me when he makes up his mind, and he calls me daily telling me he's still thinking about it.

We're in Northern Virginia btw.

AM3R > Brian Silvestro 09/06/2014 at 17:53

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His dad is a really cool guy. Cars weren't even for sale, I ran into him at a gas station with his new GTR and he took me for a quick ride. I asked about his 944 and M3 and told me he sold them to his son and he could try to convince him to sell to me.

Damn this kid is annoying...

AM3R > Jeff-God-of-Biscuits 09/06/2014 at 18:05

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I have no problem with him keeping them, it's just kind of annoying after we spent time going back and forth.

He also won't give me a straight answer on whether or not he wants to keep them or not.

AM3R > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/06/2014 at 18:08

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Lucky you, hopefully I have similar luck!

Hey is your A8 a SWB or an A8 L?

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 18:09

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A8L why?

AM3R > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 18:19

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Yes for the 944, no for the E36. It's Avus blue, which is closer to Lemans blue, which I absolutely prefer.

Manuél Ferrari > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 18:21

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Even better!

I like the idea of showing up with hundred dollar bills.

You gotta try extra hard to make this happen!

AM3R > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/06/2014 at 18:23

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My friends parents recently divorced and I'm helping him move his dad into his new condo, which involves me driving his A8L, I'm just curious how long it took you to get used to driving such a long car.

AM3R > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 18:26

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Yeah it's a little more than i was originally comfortable paying for in cash, but I can't complain.

I might even just up my offer if I have to. I want these BAD.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 18:26

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It depends. What did you drive before?

Manuél Ferrari > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 18:27

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you don't have to bring it all in cash. Bring a couple grand cash, a cashiers check, and pizza

Who can say no to that?

AM3R > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 18:33

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Haha no one! That reminds me of this really funny story. A friend of mine was selling his moms new-ish Lexus ES350 and this guy offered him $500 below his asking price + a dinner for 2 at this steak house in DC. The bill came out to like $350 with the tip so it wasn't that bad of a deal!

AM3R > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/06/2014 at 18:35

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i drive a 3 series, learned to drive waaaay back in my moms minivan.

It's gonna be around 2.5 hours of seat time total, and it's city driving which is really the only reason I'm a little worried.

Manuél Ferrari > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 18:36

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Haha that was a very good deal for the seller!

DeLM > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 18:36

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Sounds like you are content with either one. So, may I suggest? Ask the kid which one he wants more, then tell him you'll teach him to drive manual on that one, sell you the other. maybe get what you want and teach a young Jalop/oppo some good habits. That way we won't have to see future posts' of young and reckless asshatery.

AM3R > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 18:49

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I don't know if I'd take that deal myself, I grill a pretty mean steak!

Manuél Ferrari > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 18:50

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but still worth it cause even $500 below asking with no free dinner is a good offer!

AM3R > DeLM 09/06/2014 at 18:51

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Not a bad idea. I don't think this guy is an enthusiast though, he got confused when I started asking questions related to the S50 in the M3. I'll definitely bring this up though, thanks for the suggestion.

E92M3 > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 18:58

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He doesn't have half a day to learn to drive stick?

Reminds me of this kid in my neighborhood I was friends with as a teen. His dad bought him a rough classic beetle when he was 12, every birthday/xmas/etc he got new parts for it from every member of his family. They restored it together, and it was completed just before his 16th birthday. It was a top notch restoration, not an amateur one. 2 weeks after his 16th birthday he stops by in an automatic Fiero. I asked him where the beetle was, he says he sold it because he couldn't drive stick.

I was dumbfounded. You learned how to restore a car, but you can't learn to drive it?

Brian Silvestro > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 19:00

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Man, that guy sounds awesome. Just go to the dad, that'll work for sure.

AM3R > Brian Silvestro 09/06/2014 at 19:08

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Yeah if this goes on I'm just gonna talk to his dad before I back out.

Hey did you get that Alfa you bid on?

AM3R > E92M3 09/06/2014 at 19:09

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My thoughts exactly.

What!? I can't believe his parents let him sell it for a Fiero.....

Brian Silvestro > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 19:09

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lolno, it's looooooong gone.

AM3R > Brian Silvestro 09/06/2014 at 19:10

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Haha, how much did it end up going for?

Brian Silvestro > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 19:11

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It's currently at $7621 with 3 days left on the auction.

AM3R > Brian Silvestro 09/06/2014 at 19:13

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dooooo it doooo it

AM3R > Manuél Ferrari 09/06/2014 at 19:20

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Very true, I wonder how that convo goes down..

"Hey uhh I can't buy those wheels off you, but I can take you and your wife out for dinner?"

Brian Silvestro > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 19:21

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Do wot?

It's above my budget, I wouldn't be able to get it back to NY.

Manuél Ferrari > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 19:22

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LOL. "I'll also give your wife a massage. It will be like a spa visit for her."

AM3R > Brian Silvestro 09/06/2014 at 19:33

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Daaaaaaaamn.

Financially responsible Brian is financially responsible.

Brian Silvestro > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 19:34

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I know it sucks, my dad was quite influential in that matter. Rusto pointed that out to me after he told me his dad was the YOLO type of person, and that's how he raised him. My dad is not. I guess it rubs off.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 19:36

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It's not too awful. It's a large sedan, but not that much larger. When I drove a 1976 Fleetwood, it took some getting used to. When I drove a Ford F250, it took even more getting used to. An A8L didn't and won't be hard to get used to.

E92M3 > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 19:45

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His father must of been devastated. He probably imagined him keeping it forever.

AM3R > E92M3 09/06/2014 at 23:14

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That's ridiculous, how can you throw away all that hard work? I definitely feel bad for his father. He probably hoped he would do the same for his grandson.

AM3R > Brian Silvestro 09/06/2014 at 23:16

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My dad is a lot like your dad. A LOT. I'm trying my hardest to not be like that because I always despised it when I acted like that.

AM3R > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/06/2014 at 23:16

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good to hear, thanks man.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 23:18

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NP, let me know how goes

AM3R > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/06/2014 at 23:19

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Will do, I'm excited to spend some time in that interior! My friends and family always give me crap because of how much I like A8's, 7-series, and most other luxo barges. They call me an old man lol

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > AM3R 09/06/2014 at 23:20

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What year is this A8?

AM3R > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 09/06/2014 at 23:31

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it's a 2013 with the 4.0t

Brian Silvestro > AM3R 09/07/2014 at 07:26

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RRRRGGGGGHHHHHH this car is still in my budget, and if my dad would let me use one of the garage spaces (which he said he wouldn't), then I'd buy it 100%.

I'm thinking of just buying it so he'll have no choice but to hold onto it for me.

But I don't want to disappoint him...I never do that....My sister does that enough for the both of us.

Saf1 > IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK 09/07/2014 at 11:31

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His dad has a GTR and the kid bought 2 sports cars off him. Money's not the issue here

E92M3 > AM3R 09/07/2014 at 12:55

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I know right? I was SO envious of the father/son bonding restoring the car. I talked about it a lot hoping my dad would do something similar since he was a car guy too. My father was a Ford guy, and bought both my older sisters 65 Ford Falcons as their first cars. I remember waking up every xmas morning as a teen and looking out the window instead of under the tree in hopes there would be a project for me. Surely he would do the same now that he has a SON that is approaching 16. Not to sound entitled but this was a time when cars from the 60's could be had for a few hundred dollars. At the least I would of expected my neighbor to keep the beetle for sentimental reasons even if he bought something else to drive.

AM3R > E92M3 09/07/2014 at 13:04

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I know the feeling, when I was 14 E30's were worth nothing and I kept hoping my dad would get me a project. I was the only car guy in the family so obviously it never happened, and now E30 M3's go for crazy amounts of money.

The least he could've done was let his dad keep it. It MUST be special to him.